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T H I R D W I T N E S S
Continued from Part One
This transcript is from one session that elicited momories of a life in the future-- a future where humanity has left the polluted planet to live in space colonies.
This is the second of two parts. We ask that you keep an open mind and remember that these responses were unrehearsed and unexpected. The patient, here identified only as "ep," describes his life and environment in vivid detail. It is this detail that lends credence to his chilling view of what lies ahead for humanity, both on and off the planet.
A complete copy of this transcript are available from "AMAZON.COM".
Excerpt from THIRD WITNESS: The Alan Arthur Winston
Hypnotherapy Sessions with Edward Peterson
Copyright 1999 Joseph Robert Cowles. All Rights Reserved.
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aaw: Pollutants from the--?
eb: From the rebreathers. It doesn't take out all the gasses, the expelled gasses.
aaw: Go back again to that rock shielding.
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: Does it eventually absorb, and hold on to or become radioactive?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: And then does it have to be replaced?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: So it's a kind of an--
ep: See, you do understand.
aaw: --ongoing project?
ep: Yeah. Lasts about thirty or forty years. And then it starts to break up too from stress. And then you gotta redo the epoxy. So generally, you just about get one done and pretty much you gotta start all over again. That's a real good job, too.
aaw: And there's a total of how many out there?
ep: Out where?
aaw: The L stations.
ep: They usually run about twenty-five to thirty-five thousand, I guess.
aaw: Twenty-five to thirty-five thousand what?
ep: People.
aaw: Per station?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: They've got to be huge!
eb: Um-hmm. They are, I guess. What's big? Define big.
aaw: Huge. Huge!
ep: Seems like the right size.
aaw: (Laughs.) Twenty-six what--?
ep: Twenty-six point six.
aaw: Miles?
ep: Miles.
aaw: You guys use miles up here, huh?
ep: On the station.
aaw: Now--entertainment. What do you do for entertainment?
ep: What d'you mean?
aaw: Well, what do you do when you're not--how do you recreate?
ep: I watch movies, I like to read, I like to listen to music, I play music, I like to write, I like to sing, I like to fly. Sometimes I like to go sit and just meditate and relax. Sometimes that's my favorite.
aaw: Can you go places off the moon?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: Do you have a personal transportation vehicle?
ep: Personal? What d'you mean?
aaw: Something that you get to say when it leaves and when it doesn't leave--.
ep: You mean, like a possession?
aaw: Yes. Or do you have to shut--
ep: Possession. That doesn't--that doesn't fit no more.
aaw: --do you have to shuttle?
ep: Yeah, you shuttle from the L's.
aaw: Are there regular--?
ep: Yeah, sure. There's shuttles all the time everywhere. But they're not your shuttle. They're just shuttles. What would you want one for?
aaw: Well, what if you wanted to zip around the moon, to visit some places?
ep: Then I'd go tell Mark. I'd say, "Hey, man, I want to go for a ride. You got one open?" And he'd say yeah or no.
aaw: What would he have? What kind of vehicle would it be?
ep: They're just little shuttles. I don't know what you mean.
aaw: Do they fly? Do they travel across the surface of the--.
ep: Do they fly? Oh! Yeah, sure. That's--yeah.
aaw: And then they can land?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: Is the whole moon pretty well explored now?
ep: I see what you mean. They--we call 'em pop-ups.
aaw: Pop-ups?
ep: Yeah. You pop up five-six-seven hundred feet, about in there.
aaw: Yes?
ep: And then there's--you just ratchet the stick forward and the rocket will blast forward, and once you're set in motion, then every forty-fifty seconds you give it just a little bump--pssst--and it'll keep you up. Pretty much then it's like you fall around the curvature of the moon.
aaw: Hmm. So are there places that are interesting to go on the moon?
ep: Feature-wise, sure.
aaw: Other than the fact that it's all gray.
ep: It's all pretty damn gray.
aaw: What about some of those great big open--?
ep: Craters? [Undecipherable.] They're interesting, but they're flat. Flat's interesting for so long.
aaw: Do people live in the--are there people who live away from the basic work area, work settlement, or prospectors, or--?
ep: There's people who go out and around, but they use bigger crawlers and stuff, and that's a pretty tough thing to do. You're takin' a lot of risks there. Can't always-- you could get caught out in a burst, you pop a tread or something. You don't know what's going to happen.
aaw: Are the sunbursts more frequent than they used to be in the past?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: Is there a reason for that?
ep: Well, sure. I don't know what it is, particularly. (Laughs.)
aaw: Yes. Okay. But is there a known reason?
ep: No. I don't know if it's more frequent. Maybe we're just more susceptible, or something.
aaw: Do you get broadcasts from down on the planet, down on Earth?
ep: The world?
aaw: The world.
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: You call it the world?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: You don't call it Earth?
ep: Not really.
aaw: You refer to it as the world?
ep: Yeah. We call it earthrise but it's the world.
aaw: The world. So--are there broadcasts, programs?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: Video? Do you have video?
ep: Videos.
aaw: Videos. Yes. Do you have screens--video screens--for your broadcasts?
ep: Well, sure. Just like--screens. I'm not sure what you're asking me.
aaw: I'm not sure how to put it. So you have view screens?
ep: Yeah.
aaw: With programs?
ep: Some of 'em have programs in 'em, but mostly you gotta take a keyway or a box and program it yourself, whatever you want. You clip it right in there, and then it shows you whatever is on that box.
aaw: Describe that. What does that look like?
ep: The box or the screen?
aaw: The box. I can pretty well visualize the screen.
ep: The box. The boxes are an inch by four or five inches by about two inches. And they have all the information in 'em. Whatever it is that you want. And you set it on the side of the screen, there's these hooks, and you just hook it there. And then it translates the information onto the screen.
aaw: So it's like a recording.
ep: Recording? Hmm.
aaw: A record. It's not happening live, it's information that's stored in the box.
ep: Yeah. It's stored.
aaw: Okay. Now what about live things, like broadcasts, news?--
ep: We don't really care what goes on down there.
aaw: Oh! Okay.
ep: I mean, it's there, but it's all just--I don't know. I don't watch it. I don't care. It's on.
aaw: Do you people in space consider yourselves to be a different society?
ep: Well, we are.
aaw: A different--?
ep: We interact. [Undecipherable.] We perform.
aaw: Do people still come up from the planet?
ep: Sometimes.
aaw: Do they need permission to come up?
ep: Oh, yeah.
aaw: They have to apply, like immigrants?
ep: Apply? Apply. No. they have to be screened and coded and checked.
aaw: How do they get screened?
ep: They gotta be scanned.
aaw: You mean physically?
ep: Um-hmm.
aaw: What are they looking for?
ep: Any kind of devices, any kind of congenital anomalies, any hidden stuff in the digestive tracts or anything like that. Can't let anybody go up that has weak hearts, weak lungs, aneurysms, thin blood vessels, any kind of thing that would pop 'em open, you know. Pressure changes, compression from takeoff.
aaw: So the people up there--up here, up where you are--are pretty healthy then?
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